Posts by King Solomon

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Proof that Satan is in control of the WT and THAT is why the new change will come.....

by EndofMysteries in

if anybody ever read the two babylons book, it detailed how christianity became corrupt.

how over time, not on the spot, but slowly changes were implemented, it started with forbidding anybody to read or hold the bible, and only the leader/pope etc could teach, once there was full absolute power, then satan was able to put in anything he wanted to corrupt it all.

i am not going to list the articles and scriptures, everybody can find those, i'm just going to quickly show from the history to now how it's happened and the proof and what is happening now.

King Solomon

As Leo said, evil is an IDEA, and is arbitrary, subjective, and a matter of opinion. There is no tanglible physical object upon which some concepts are based (eg Mt Everest, water, etc).

Consider this example:

To a rat, the house cat that is eating it alive is the pure epitome of evil, and every cell of the rat's body is trying to escape the grips of the cat's claws and deadly fangs. If you asked the rat (or read the "rat Bible"), their Satan would be feline.

To the owner of the cat, the feline isn't evil: he bought the cat specifically to deal with a rodent infestation in his house, and to him, the cat is not evil, but doing his will.

However, did I mention that the rat is actually the Morro Bay kangaroo rat, an endangered species that is protected by Federal law?

Now, suppose the cat's owner allowed the cat to freely wander the neighborhood, and the cat hunted kangaroo rats on land specifically set aside as habitat for their populations to recover?

To the authorities who manage the habitat (Bureau of Land Management), the cat's OWNER is the bad guy, deserving of punishment for allowing his cat to wander free. Ask an environmentalist, and they'll say the OWNER is EVIL for allowing his cat to driving an endangered species closer to extinction, and the owner is demonized.

See how that works? There is no objective EVIL. Your perspective likely changed, depending on the facts offered: there is no objective or universal evil in the example. Evil is simply what we all AGREE it to be, and some are willing to believe in imaginary evil figures when there's no reason to do so. Fortunately, REALITY is not open to a show of hands, where the majority agreeing upon the existence of Santa Claus doesn't mean that he exists.

The subjective nature of evil doesn't mean that humanity hasn't created LAWS which assume the concept of "good/bad" (or "desirable/undesirable") actions, which can be defined in terms of social contracts, and contributing to social harmony. But to assume that we need to burden our thinking with religious ideology (where "sin" and "evil" are colored by religious connotations, presupposing an existence of a moral law-giver) is foolish.

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Standard of Living in the New System

by cobaltcupcake in

i used to wonder about this when i was still a dub: since they believe the industrialized world is going to be destroyed and the entire earth will be one big garden, exactly what kind of standard of living do they think they will have?

while they might be able to scavenge, say, a microwave oven or washing machine; and they might be able to figure out how to generate electricity, eventually all of these things will wear out and they'll be back in an early 18th century type of life.

people of that time and earlier who enjoyed a high standard of living employed armies of servants to do the dirty work, but since equality will reign in the ns, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.. or do they think that big j will magically power their washing machines and water pumps and all the stuff that makes modern living so comfortable?.

King Solomon

RO said:

The program said that there are something like 300+ reactors in mainland Europe alone. So basically within days, all of Europe would be a nuclear wasteland.

That is, unless there was divine intervention...............

I've mentioned this fact on occassion to my Dub friends and they shrug and say "...well, who knows...".

Well, it's a damned good thing all JWs have prepared their little survival bags/kits, filled with water, falshlight, and snacks! God's gonna have his hands full with the big stuff (like preventing nuclear meltdowns), so he won't have time to provide snacks for a snack break!

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Standard of Living in the New System

by cobaltcupcake in

i used to wonder about this when i was still a dub: since they believe the industrialized world is going to be destroyed and the entire earth will be one big garden, exactly what kind of standard of living do they think they will have?

while they might be able to scavenge, say, a microwave oven or washing machine; and they might be able to figure out how to generate electricity, eventually all of these things will wear out and they'll be back in an early 18th century type of life.

people of that time and earlier who enjoyed a high standard of living employed armies of servants to do the dirty work, but since equality will reign in the ns, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.. or do they think that big j will magically power their washing machines and water pumps and all the stuff that makes modern living so comfortable?.

King Solomon

CCC said:

but since equality will reign in the NS, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.

Just wait for the New Light from the GB:

I predict within 20 years they will announce that the resurrected will be the LITERAL "slave" class in the New System, since they're supposed to be resurrected as eunuchs (a trait that's often associated with domestics in the OT, and that'll teach THEM to die before Armageddon!).

Problem solved!

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I have a girlfriend now and "me so happy"

by RayPublisher in

here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!

...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .

btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.

King Solomon

RBIH said:

i think you should add some valuable advice for the rest of us in the dating tips for men thread. some of us could use some pointers lol

The advise is not too disimilar to that offered to avoid sexual harassment charges at work, as seen in THIS SNL video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY

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starting fresh

by rather be in hades in

jw
friends

when you left, did you feel the need to start your life over?

how did you go about reconciling who you were with how you feel now?.

better yet, for those born/raised in, how did that transition affect you and are you ok with who you used to be?.

King Solomon

Oh, on the born-in vs converted thing:

I'm not so sure that born-ins are at so much greater risk of emotional and logical handicapping, since it's likely their JW parents DID offer structure in their lives. Compare that to those converts who had lived completely dysfunctional lives while growing up (w/ drug addict parents, etc), and when they join as adults they ARE already crippled, and ripe for being controlled in a cult.

Granted, the converts likely don't face the loss of family issues (shunning), but it's harder to grow if you don't have the roots, and as dysfunctional some JW upbringings are, many are actually exceptional (although mislead), even by Worldly standards.

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starting fresh

by rather be in hades in

jw
friends

when you left, did you feel the need to start your life over?

how did you go about reconciling who you were with how you feel now?.

better yet, for those born/raised in, how did that transition affect you and are you ok with who you used to be?.

King Solomon

RBIH said:

all the decisions i made regarding my schooling, who i made friends with, self imposed restrictions, that was all my fault. i didn't like any of it, but went along with it because i believed it and my not doing due diligence is to blame.

I think you're being too hard on yourself for choices you made as a minor.

Think of it this way: we don't hold minors responsibile for their crimes, and going with the JW flow is nowhere close to shooting or killing anyone, getting caught up in drugs, gangs, etc.... The fact is you probably would've encountered the religion issue at some point in your life, so you're actually pretty lucky to have figured it out this early in life. Just look at all the people who will NEVER figure it out: the Harold Campings of the World who will die having believed a massive lie, wasting all of THEIR lives. Look at all the people here who learned TTATT in their 60's.

And even there, even though the truth IS a lie, they don't HAVE to look at their prior life as a complete waste: many raised families the best they could, worked an honest job, and genuinely tried to help others. There's NO SHAME in that kind of life, EVEN IF it was built around a lie.

i'm just having one of those shitty weeks were it feels like i'm waking up everyday thinking, "what's the point? i'll always have this hanging over my head. i'll never have internal peace, i'll never get the stink of jw offa me."

It wasn't always like this for me (I took some time to accept this fact), but I eventually came to decide it's better not to deny or blame my JW roots, but accept it as part of what makes me as I am today. Engaging in couda/shoulda is pointless wallowing in the past, and is often used as an excuse for continued retardation; instead just accept it to grow. Ball's in your court now, so run with it....

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I have a girlfriend now and "me so happy"

by RayPublisher in

here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!

...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .

btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.

King Solomon

You can level with us, RayPublisher: are you SURE you didn't have her goin' on, on the side? Perhaps a D2D that showed some interest, and you turned into many return visits, LOL?

Good for you, man!

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Bit of Good News

by LouBelle in

jw
friends

some of you know i've been down in the dark dumps.

i haven't had employment for 10 months now.

there is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel.

King Solomon

Great prospects! My fingers are crossed for you!

Your future's looking bright, but if you're superstitious, you'd probably think twice about jinxing it by wearing shades, just yet.

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Mrs Punk left the family!

by punkofnice in

jw
friends

it's nearly 2 months now but mrs punk finally left myself (mentally diseased apostate tm) with my 2 non kingdum hell attending boys.. she left when my jw daughter moved out and they moved in together.

i don't think it'll be long before my daughter gets sick of her mum but there you go!!.

i received a call from mrs punk to say: 'i didn't leave you because of the religion!'.

King Solomon

As jgnat mentioned, it might be good to explain this to your sons as Mom being sick, where her JW beliefs are only one symptom of her paranoia and not necessarily the cause (it should be easy for them to understand how paranoid people would be attracted to the JW doomsday "the world sucks" message, like moths are attracted to flames). Why? Since that approach really is likely closer to the truth, and unfortunately there's nothing that can be done to help her until Mom worsens, since freedom of religion covers a multitude of mental illness diagnoses. Her JW daughter is likely a co-dependent, helping her persist in the delusion.

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Telling family about "new light"

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

okay, now it's my turn to start a thread about the gb/fds "new light" now that it's been well covered by many threads.

i've noticed that a few have brought this subject up with dub family who accepted wt "new light" without objection, saying that it "made sense" for the fds to only be the gb.

so i have an idea of how to bring this up with my family in such a way that will highlight that this doesn't make sense... at all.. and the timing of this whole thing is incredibly convenient for me since it wasn't that long ago that this came up with my parents and i said that the wt interpretation of the fds in matthew was out-of-context and flawed.

King Solomon

BOC, good point about WTBTS feeding the new light unofficially for a long period of time, then finally officially announcing the policy and the R&F's reaction is, "well THAT makes sense!" exactly because that WAS the answer they had been provided for all those years prior!

It's just a slight permutation of the manner in which the WT magazine provides both the question AND the answer in study articles, so the JW only need 'hunt and peck' like a chicken to find the answer within the paragraph. Only in this case, the GB provided the answer repeatedly years before they actually asked the question, and when they finally "asked", the well-trained JW was patting themselves on the head, proud that they already knew the answer before it was provided (like they were really smart, or in-tune with the moves the GB makes, yet not smart enough to see the strategy).

Pretty insidious strategy, actually, although not surprising: JWs wants people who are smart, but not too smart (which reminds me of the guy who was denied a job as a cop, after being told that he was "too smart to be a cop")